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Old 02-06-2010, 09:58 PM
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The alien couldn,t be killed by any means = Ash,s words = CANON
Ash said "you cannot kill it" referring to the crew of the Nostromo and their limited means of defending themselves. He did not say it cannot be killed, and he certainly didn't add "by any means".
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:07 PM
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Predator for the Domination
only a predator can look a marine
in the eyes run away and without
even being seen

plus they have badass technologu
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:46 AM
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I say we need Riddick vs Alien vs Predator.

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Old 02-08-2010, 08:14 AM
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Marines..

Coz we are Humans, Powerful and awesome weapons
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:29 PM
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Ash said "you cannot kill it" referring to the crew of the Nostromo and their limited means of defending themselves. He did not say it cannot be killed, and he certainly didn't add "by any means".
Nostromo guys had lasers (they weren,t weilding slingshots when they went to the Derelict), and Ash knew about that too.

and the you can not kill it.., he was referring to the alien man, don,t mess It up xD
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:36 PM
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They had a jury-rigged flamethrower and a fishing net and a cattle-prod. They didn't have lasers. It was a mining vessel. They has no weapons on board.

"THEY" couldn't kill it because they lacked the means to do so. That is a far cry from unkillable.
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Those weapons were lasers, Scott already said that.

In any case, then why It didn,t die or explode when ripley started the engine?, 5600ēC plasma degree is a lot more than two or three pulse rifle bursts. I don,t know about you, but I,m sure that,s enough to disintegrate anything.

The alien is the perfect organism because:

-It quickly adapts to any environment, and this includes surviving in a vacuum.

-Couldn,t be destroyed with weapons, nukes or slingshots as you wish, but It couldn,t. The only way to stop one of this things in case of infection was to contain It until It dies in a matter of days like Scott said (about It living just for a matter of days). Jockey,s weren,t fools.
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Did we watch the same movie? Because I'm watching it now and there are no lasers being taken to the derelict. They have flashlights, that's it.

Anyway, I'll quote the section you're referring to about Ash saying the Xeno is unkillable:

RIPLEY
How do we kill it.

ASH
I don't think you can. Not
in this ship, given its life
support systems. But I might
be able to.

RIPLEY
How.

ASH
I don't know quite yet. I'm not
exactly at my best at the moment.
If you would reconnect...

RIPLEY
No way.

ASH
Don't be so hasty. You'll never
kill it without my help.

RIPLEY
We've had enough of your help.

ASH
You've barely got any oxygen left.
If you don't go into hypersleep,
you'll die with or without the
Alien.

RIPLEY
Nice try, Ash.

ASH
I will do whatever I can to help
you. I swear it.

PARKER
Pull the plug.

LAMBERT
I agree.

ASH
You idiots. You still don't
realize what you're dealing with.
The Alien is a perfect organism.
Superbly structured, cunning,
quintessentially violent. With
your limited capabilities you have
no chance against it.

LAMBERT
You admire it.

ASH
How can one not admire perfection.
I will kill it because I am
programmed to protect human life
as you know.

RIPLEY
Even if you have contempt for it.

ASH
Even then.

Bitter and angry.

RIPLEY
Sorry Ash. I don't buy it.

ASH
You egocentric morons. You'll
be ripped to shreds, destroyed
and...

Ripley make a movement.
Ash softens...

ASH
I can only wish you well...

Ripley pulls the plug.

PARKER
He was probably right. We do
need him.

RIPLEY
He was conning us.

LAMBERT
He was programmed to protect
human life.

RIPLEY
He wasn't protecting our human
lives and that's all I care about.
Anyway it's done.
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No, that is innaccurate-

-it is this:

Ripley: Ash, can you hear me? *Ash*?
Ash: Yes, I can hear you.
Ripley: What was your special order?
Ash: You read it. I thought it was clear.
Ripley: What was it?
Ash: Bring back life form. Priority One. All other priorities rescinded.
Parker: The damn company. What about our lives, you son of a bitch?
Ash: I repeat, all other priorities are rescinded.
Ripley: How do we kill it Ash? There's gotta be a way of killing it, how, *how* do we do it?
Ash: You can't.
Parker: That's bullshit.
Ash: You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
Lambert: You admire it.
Ash: I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
Parker: Look, I am - I've heard enough of this, and I'm asking you to pull the plug.
Ash: [Ripley goes to disconnect Ash, who interrupts] Last word.
Ripley: What?
Ash: I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:29 PM
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That's not the original script. Original is original.
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