I watched Aliens last night and...

[Guirec]

Did the Alien start the fire? Bishop said that it was "mechanical", right?

It could have cut itself on the glass of the cryo tube, I suppose.

[Mustafuck]

The hugger that fucked Ripley up first tried to hug Newt. It apparently failed and scratched one of Its legs in the attempt, opening a scar and spilling some blood over the floor. The acid reached the underneath wiring and the fire began. This can be seen in the very opening of the movie.

[Guirec]

I recall that, but now that you mention it, shouldn't Newt has had some serious acid burns on some part of her body (like the face region) because of that? Didn't come up on autopsy.

And why "give up"? Was it embarassed? Didn't realize she wasn't legal?

As well edited as that intro was, it sure was a head-scratcher from a logical point of view.

[Mustafuck]

The acid burns were at the bottom of Newt's cryotube. That's where It was spilt over.

Originally Posted by Guirec

And why "give up"? Was it embarassed? Didn't realize she wasn't legal?

Good question. Perhaps the little hugger didn't want to be accused of pederasty.

As well edited as that intro was, it sure was a head-scratcher from a logical point of view.

there was another mistake, and this wasn't a "little" one like the egg placement..., I mean, If Ripley got hugged then, why wasn't the crystal of her cryotube broken?, It was in pristine condition in the scene where she examines the EEV with Clements and her body later on the movie, so how did the lovely facehugger that put and end to her crusade against this race entered her cryotube while in hypersleep?

[Guirec]

I thought that particular cryo tube was one of the unused ones for the Marines. But good question...

[Mustafuck]

Only four cryotubes were loaded into the EEV; Ripley's, Bishop's, Newt's and the one where Hicks got lololimpaled, making this cryotube the only one broken out of the four. The other three were in perfect conditions, I mean no broken glass in any of them. How did the facehugger got Ripley If the glass of her cryotube was not broken then?, also, Newt's cryotube glass should have some scratches as we saw in the intro when It fails at getting her, opening a scar on Its legs and spilling the blood that triggered the fire.. All It is shown in the scene with Ripley examining the crytubes along with Clements is the acid burns at the bottom of Newt's cryo. Ripley's and Newt's cryotubes weren't broken (you see she doesn't react but just for the acid burns).

To me this always was true Fincher's screw up, making the image with the egg in the "wtf?" position look even ok (as long as you forget about last known queen's hidding place on the dropship, I mean inside the landing gear, where the eggs should have been), and the funny thing about all of this is that I have never heard one of the aliens fanatics in their eternal retarded crusade against alien3 to speak about this mistake..., they were/are just too focused on the wrong egg position, making them all blind to the true big mistake a few scenes later. Well I know you can't expect too much from them, but man, now this was a mistake to be taken into account, not the little one about the wrong egg position.

[Guirec]

Well, the egg being in the wrong place is something that comes up because you can SEE it. Not noticing the glass is an error of omission, and thus trickier to notice.

[Mustafuck]

Doesn't change the fact of the second mistake overriding the first one completely. Haters should have payed more attention to the movie before throwing all the shit on It at first sight. The hatred towards this movie was basically due to the fact that there were no more marines with pulse rifles shooting bu..., I mean aliens, and that was just retarded.

[Guirec]

Yes, I find most of the criticism largely unfounded. But as the third in a pattern, it established that, as a franchise, the consistency is in large variation from one to the next. It's mostly admirable that each movie is so different than the ones before (and Prometheus appears to be continuing the trend, even if it's bucking the "new young director" that was always the other constant).

It's an absolutely stellar film in a lot of ways, but it's strange that it's strongest point is that it smothers you in disappointment and sadness. It's hard to believe Fincher isn't a foreign director, hahaha.